This portion of the discussion explores the concept of partnership of different strengths. Is the last part of our #Zoom discussion on Adam/Adamah and Chavah/Eve in Part 3 of Marriage & Relationship: Modern Concepts vs. Biblical Principles. All told, we were on the line for about four hours and touched on many topics and themes. It’s been quite the learning exercise editing long videos down to shorter conversational pieces.
Partnership of Different Strengths
The next discussion on Elizabeth/Zechariah and Mary/Joseph (MR Part 5) is tentatively planned for Saturday, December 19, 9:00am Mountain Time. I’m aiming to keep it under 1.5 hrs. 😉 Email BibleStudy@harvest-life.org for link details.
Marriage & Relationship: Modern Concepts vs. Biblical Principles, Part 3 Video Part 3.4: Partnership with Different Strengths Text: Genesis 1-5, Revelation 22
God – The Ultimate Everything
What idea are you choosing above your relationship with God?
How important is being equally yoked with your partner?
Church Hurts: Looking for a compatible congregation
Nomads in transition
If you generalize, you will generally be in trouble.
Why would God build a weak house for Himself? Would you build a weak, inferior house to establish your life and family? Would you raise your children with the sure knowledge that one is weaker than their siblings and therefore not as worthy in your sight? For many people the simple answers to these questions are No. Absolutely not. Hopefully not.
As much as people like to dismiss much of the Bible as being a product of its time, they don’t realize that it’s time is now. Whatever present you exist in, the Bible is relevant. You don’t need to be an ancient history scholar or a revisionist of ancient cultures to comprehend the basics. One such basic, is God did not create a “weaker vessel.”
MR Video Part 3.3
If you doubt, try a simple thought experiment. What we know:
God views us as His – His Body, His Children, His Bride. We are a part of Him. (Hosea 1:10,Hosea 2:23)
What in this implies weakness?
The subjugation of women is a trigger for me. I get a bit hot under the collar during this portion of the discussion with Dorina and Glynis, who joins us long enough to drop the “weaker vessel” bomb into the conversation. Glynis is an Episcopal Minister who is steeped in traditional teachings. She’s been one of the main people I’ve gone to with my Biblical questions and spiritual dilemmas since high school. That doesn’t mean we see eye to eye on everything.
Take a listen.
Marriage & Relationship: Modern Concepts vs. Biblical Principles Series
Part 3: Adam/Adamah + Chavah/Eve Man + Woman Human + Spirit
Text: Genesis 1-5, Revelation 22
Part 3.3 Culture of Subjugating Women
Paul and Timothy cultural teachings subjugating women in the church
Lie of weaker vessel
Original intent of created beings
Longest war on Earth is between men and women = human and spirit
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Join me Tuesday, November 17, 2020 for Part 3 of the Marriage & Relationship: Modern Conflicts vs. Biblical Principles virtual study. We will explore the marriage of Adam/Adamah & Chavah/Eve and the relationship between Man/Woman and Human/Spirit.
Text: Genesis 1-5, Revelation 22
Discussion Questions
What are your ideas of manhood and womanhood?
When you think of two people joining in marriage, what does that represent to you?
Do you see husband and wife as an equal partnership or as an hierarchal relationship?
What is your interpretation of the following verses?
The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to till it and keep it. And the Lord God commanded the man, “You may freely eat of every tree of the garden; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die.” (Gen 2:15-17)
Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper as his partner.” (Gen 2:18)
Then the man said, “This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; this one shall be called Woman, for out of Man this one was taken.” (Gen 2:23)
Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and clings to his wife, and they become one flesh. (Gen 2:24)
And the man and his wife were both naked, and were not ashamed. (Gen 2:25)
“I will greatly increase your pangs in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.” (Gen 3:16)
cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” (Gen 3:17-19)
Questions from Study Partners
Dorina:
What’s the situation with a believer marrying a non believer?
Do we have to walk with other Christians or can you walk alone?
Key Words to Explore
join/cleave
side (translated as rib)
desire
human
spirit
man
woman
breath
Here are some resources I’ve been digging into for this discussion.
“It may surprise English readers that the word adam is a neutral term meaning “human,” not specifically a man. In the original Hebrew text, all references to Adam are neutral until God takes some of Adam’s flesh and makes a woman: ishah, in Hebrew. Only at that point is Adam called ish, a man.” ~ Lois Tverberg
Chavah vs. Eve: The reason for this difference is the difficulty English speakers experience when learning to properly pronounce the Hebrew letter ‘Chet’ ח}}which appears at the beginning of the Hebrew name ‘CHavah’ (*in the old Latin translation of the Bible it appears as ‘Hava’).
As children of Adam, we are earthly—we have a connection with adamah. And that is why we must be born again (John 3:3). Only a relationship with Jesus Christ can break us free from the Adamic curse and the Adamic fate.
tsêlâ‘, ”side” -צֵלָע (Strong’s #6763); An architectural term, used mostly in intricate descriptions of sanctuary and temple construction. The KJV translates Strong’s H6763 in the following manner: side (19x), chamber (11x), boards (2x), corners (2x), rib (2x), another (1x), beams (1x), halting (1x), leaves (1x), planks (1x)
Join me Tuesday, November 17, 2020 for Part 3 of the Marriage & Relationships: Modern Conflicts vs. Biblical Principles virtual study. We will explore the marriage of Adam/Adamah & Chavah/Eve and the relationship between Man/Woman and Human/Spirit.
Text: Genesis 1-5, Revelation 22
Discussion questions will be posted in advance of the Zoom call. Feel free to add any questions you may want to discuss to this post or the Discussion Question post.
Zoom Meeting Details
Topic: Marriage & Relationship: Modern Conflicts vs. Biblical Principles, Part 3
Time: Nov 17, 2020 07:30-9:30 AM Mountain Time (US and Canada)
Scheduled for this time every 2 weeks on Tue, until Feb 23, 2021, 8 occurrence(s)